Everybody, Peter zillion here coming to you from just above sister Lake. That’s volunteer peak in the background. I am finishing up my High Country, diverse from Rock Island Lake to DOE Lake to here, then back on the trail for, you know, an hour, then another traverse. Anyway, going through the ask Peter forum, we’ve had a question come in about what I think about everything that the Russians and the Chinese are doing in Africa specifically. And it kind of falls into three general category. Let’s start with the Chinese. First. We’ve got the old stuff, the One Belt, One Road stuff, where the Chinese basically came in said, we’ll build this piece of infrastructure or a building, or whatever it is for you, and it’s free, and we just ask you to be our friends. Well, a few years later, the Chinese came back. He’s like, Oh, when we said free, what we really meant is, this is a loan, and you have to start paying us back right now. And they were laughed out of the room in a lot of places. So a lot of these projects were things that the locals didn’t need or can’t operate themselves. And once the Chinese actually started demanding payment. A lot of this stuff just fell into disrepair. So I don’t really, I’m not concerned about that. There’s a couple exceptions here and there, but only a couple. How much did the Chinese waste on this? I don’t have a specific number for Africa alone, but on a global basis, we’re talking easily north of the trip us. It’s not the dumbest thing we’ve seen the Chinese government do, but it’s certainly one of the things the Chinese government has done that is really that is really, really dumb that the rest of the world has gotten all up in arms about. Anyway, let’s see what’s next. The second big thing are the minerals acquisitions that the Chinese are doing in Africa. This is all stuff that, from a technical point of view, is pretty easy. They’re not doing any deep offshore oil, for example, because they don’t have the technology to do it themselves. But in these, these are much more real, if that’s the right term, and the Chinese are getting manganese and cobalt and copper and all the rest. Couple things to keep in mind about this. It’s not that this is not real. This is very real. But whenever you see the Chinese spending $4 billion for something that’s only worth 1 billion, it’s not just about resource acquisition. It’s about capital flight. It means that someone in the Chinese bureaucracy has figured out a way to get a lot of cash out of the country and disguise it as investment. So this is real investment. It is actually taking minerals and bringing them back to China. Whether it’s cost effective needs to be looked at on a case by case basis. I’d argue that probably half of them are not. But there is a bribery and corruption effect in play here that you can’t overlook when you’re looking at everything else. The third issue are the Russians. Very different sort of strategy. What the Russians are doing is taking Wagner or their paramilitary group, sending it over there and literally kicking over the ant hills. The goal here is not to provide stability. The goal is to enact regime change, and then, as a bonus, the new regime, whatever that happens to be, typically, gives the Russians a gold mine. They’re not interested in other types of mineral extraction because gold is just easier to smuggle, and that’s how the Russians are getting around sanctions. These days. They’re literally flying planes full of gold to places to pay for things that they can’t get otherwise, the place where the Russians have been most successful with this is the Sahel, that area that’s just to the south of Saba, Sahara, just to the north of the wetter areas like Nigeria or Congo. So you’re talking like Mauritania, Niger, Chad, those kind of places there have a number of them have had coups in the last few years, especially since the Ukraine war started, and that’s ejected what used to be a lot of French influence into a much lesser degree American influence. The Americans were there to fight kind of the final chapter on the war and terror. The French were there because it was their old colonial holdings. Anyway, the territory here is pretty much worthless. I mean, you’re talking about something that’s barely a step above desert, even before you consider things like climate change, which suggests that the Sahara is going to be marching south here for a while. The problem, of course, is that when you take an area where the state was weak and you destroy it, you turn an entire band of Africa into a stateless zone. And the last time the world was a little obsessed about a stateless zone. It was Afghanistan. Now this doesn’t necessarily mean that the next al Qaeda is going to form here, the next major terror attack is going to erupt from this area, but it’s a very similar series of conditions. You have a light population that can’t fend for themselves. You’ve got warlords who basically are running amok and knocking over with Russian help anyone who might want to impose a little order on the area. So you know of the three categories, this is probably the one with the lower dollar amount attached, but probably the highest transcontinental significance. So three different, very different circumstance. Chances going on here, all with different outcomes. Okay, see you next time.
What are China and Russia doing in Africa?
By Straight Arrow News
The growing presence of China in Africa has captured the attention of Western leaders, who warn that Beijing is exploiting Africa’s precious minerals and showing a general disregard for human rights. Meanwhile, Russia is busy forging closer ties with nations in the Sahel region of North Africa, aiming to secure agreements with their leaders in exchange for access to the Atlantic Ocean.
Watch the video above as Straight Arrow News contributor Peter Zeihan breaks down the activities of China and Russia in Africa. Zeihan warns that Russia’s attempts to bypass Western sanctions are showing up in the Sahel region, which could create conditions that make it easier for terrorist groups to form.
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Excerpted from Peter’s Aug. 23 “Zeihan on Geography” newsletter:
China and Russia seemingly enjoy having their fingers in the African pie, but what are they doing there? And should we be worried?
The Chinese have carried out infrastructure projects advertised as free, and later tried to collect payment on those “free” projects. As you could imagine, much of that Chinese infrastructure in Africa fell into disrepair; we’re not just talking about pennies here either…
But that’s not the only thing China is up to in Africa. They are also heavily investing in minerals like manganese, cobalt and copper. While the investments are real, they are overpaying due to corruption and Chinese bureaucrats seeking to move money out of the country.
Now, onto the Russians. The Russian involvement is bit more sinister, as they are using the Wagner Group (a paramilitary organization) to destabilize regions, instigate regime changes, and secure gold mines. This has been highly effective in places like the Sahel region, and is expressly designed to amplify regional risks and create a stateless zone that will cause headaches for everyone else for years.
These activities all have varying degrees of impact, and while the Chinese might be pouring more money into Africa, I would keep your eyes on the Russian involvement.
This video was recorded during Zeihan’s backpacking trip through Yosemite in the end of July.
Everybody, Peter zillion here coming to you from just above sister Lake. That’s volunteer peak in the background. I am finishing up my High Country, diverse from Rock Island Lake to DOE Lake to here, then back on the trail for, you know, an hour, then another traverse. Anyway, going through the ask Peter forum, we’ve had a question come in about what I think about everything that the Russians and the Chinese are doing in Africa specifically. And it kind of falls into three general category. Let’s start with the Chinese. First. We’ve got the old stuff, the One Belt, One Road stuff, where the Chinese basically came in said, we’ll build this piece of infrastructure or a building, or whatever it is for you, and it’s free, and we just ask you to be our friends. Well, a few years later, the Chinese came back. He’s like, Oh, when we said free, what we really meant is, this is a loan, and you have to start paying us back right now. And they were laughed out of the room in a lot of places. So a lot of these projects were things that the locals didn’t need or can’t operate themselves. And once the Chinese actually started demanding payment. A lot of this stuff just fell into disrepair. So I don’t really, I’m not concerned about that. There’s a couple exceptions here and there, but only a couple. How much did the Chinese waste on this? I don’t have a specific number for Africa alone, but on a global basis, we’re talking easily north of the trip us. It’s not the dumbest thing we’ve seen the Chinese government do, but it’s certainly one of the things the Chinese government has done that is really that is really, really dumb that the rest of the world has gotten all up in arms about. Anyway, let’s see what’s next. The second big thing are the minerals acquisitions that the Chinese are doing in Africa. This is all stuff that, from a technical point of view, is pretty easy. They’re not doing any deep offshore oil, for example, because they don’t have the technology to do it themselves. But in these, these are much more real, if that’s the right term, and the Chinese are getting manganese and cobalt and copper and all the rest. Couple things to keep in mind about this. It’s not that this is not real. This is very real. But whenever you see the Chinese spending $4 billion for something that’s only worth 1 billion, it’s not just about resource acquisition. It’s about capital flight. It means that someone in the Chinese bureaucracy has figured out a way to get a lot of cash out of the country and disguise it as investment. So this is real investment. It is actually taking minerals and bringing them back to China. Whether it’s cost effective needs to be looked at on a case by case basis. I’d argue that probably half of them are not. But there is a bribery and corruption effect in play here that you can’t overlook when you’re looking at everything else. The third issue are the Russians. Very different sort of strategy. What the Russians are doing is taking Wagner or their paramilitary group, sending it over there and literally kicking over the ant hills. The goal here is not to provide stability. The goal is to enact regime change, and then, as a bonus, the new regime, whatever that happens to be, typically, gives the Russians a gold mine. They’re not interested in other types of mineral extraction because gold is just easier to smuggle, and that’s how the Russians are getting around sanctions. These days. They’re literally flying planes full of gold to places to pay for things that they can’t get otherwise, the place where the Russians have been most successful with this is the Sahel, that area that’s just to the south of Saba, Sahara, just to the north of the wetter areas like Nigeria or Congo. So you’re talking like Mauritania, Niger, Chad, those kind of places there have a number of them have had coups in the last few years, especially since the Ukraine war started, and that’s ejected what used to be a lot of French influence into a much lesser degree American influence. The Americans were there to fight kind of the final chapter on the war and terror. The French were there because it was their old colonial holdings. Anyway, the territory here is pretty much worthless. I mean, you’re talking about something that’s barely a step above desert, even before you consider things like climate change, which suggests that the Sahara is going to be marching south here for a while. The problem, of course, is that when you take an area where the state was weak and you destroy it, you turn an entire band of Africa into a stateless zone. And the last time the world was a little obsessed about a stateless zone. It was Afghanistan. Now this doesn’t necessarily mean that the next al Qaeda is going to form here, the next major terror attack is going to erupt from this area, but it’s a very similar series of conditions. You have a light population that can’t fend for themselves. You’ve got warlords who basically are running amok and knocking over with Russian help anyone who might want to impose a little order on the area. So you know of the three categories, this is probably the one with the lower dollar amount attached, but probably the highest transcontinental significance. So three different, very different circumstance. Chances going on here, all with different outcomes. Okay, see you next time.
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