Everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from Colorado where we’ve just had our first big winter storm and probably get a little bit more on top of the nine inches we got last night Anywho. The news of the moment is that a lot of major auto manufacturers are scaling down their plans to make electric vehicles Ford and GM have both suspended well canceled, plans to build a couple new facilities for battery and Evie assembly, no changes to their internal combustion engine vehicle plans, Tesla has indicated a significant drawdown in their global production capacity. And in fact, they’re saying they’re going to suspend and maybe even canceled the plans for the Gigafactory that they were going to be building in Mexico, although that’s very TBD. There are a lot of issues in play here. But let’s start with the toll DSOs this is something that was never going to work. From an environmental point of view, most EVs are at best questionable. The data that says there’s slam dunk successes assumes that you’re building the EVS with a relatively clean energy mix and the recharging it with 100% green energy. And that happens exactly nowhere. In the United States, the cleanest state is California, they are still 50% fossil fuel energy. And they lie about their statistics because they say they don’t know what the mix is for the power that they’re importing from the rest of the country, which is something like a third of their total demand. And the stuff that comes say from the Phoenix area in Arizona to the LA basin, which is something like 10 gigawatts a day, which is more than most small countries is 100% fossil fuel, but California claims to not know, more importantly, on the fabrication side, because there are so many more exotic materials and because energy processed and make those materials is so much more energy intensive. All of this work is done in China. And in most places, it’s done with either soft coal or lignite. So you’re talking about an order of magnitude more carbon generated just to make these things in the first place compared to an ice. And that means that these things don’t break even on the carbon scale within a year. For most you’re talking about approaching 10 years or more. And that assumes you buy the Chinese data, which is right. Okay, so that’s kind of number one. Number two is materials. These vehicles require an order of magnitude more stuff, more copper, more molybdenum, more, more lithium, obviously, the graphite, and the energy content required to put those that a process is where most of the energy cost comes from. But the more important thing is, is if we’re going to convert the world’s vehicle fleet to these things, there’s just not enough stuff on the planet. I’m not saying that we can’t build on time. But that time is measured in decades, humanity has never doubled the production of any industrial material anytime in history within a 10 year period, if it was something we were using before. And supposedly we need getting 10 times as much nickel and all the rest. So the stuff just isn’t there. So even if this was an environmental panacea, which it’s not, we would never be able to do it in a very short timeframe you’re talking to Century plus most likely. Third cost, your typical Eevee. If you want to compare it to something that’s an internal combustion, it really depends on the model, the cheapest ones are going to still cost about 10,000. More than their equivalent, the more expensive ones can be upwards of 70,000. And so this is not a vehicle whose for most people, and that’s before you consider little things like range anxiety, and I’ve rented an Eevee if it’s real, if there just aren’t enough charging stations. So in order to build out the electrical system that we need, in order to have a nationwide Evie program, we need to basically increase low end the amount of electricity generation and throughput of our system by about half. Now, there’s only been one year since the 1960s, where the United States has ever increased the amount of electricity generated by more than 3%. And that was the year we came back from COVID. And so we didn’t have to install any new infrastructure for that, we would have to generate the sort of build out that we did back in the 50s, when the country was electrifying for the first time. And that’s going to require an order of magnitude more almost two orders of magnitude, let’s call it 20 times more equipment when it comes to things like Transformers and cables than we have done in 75 years. And if we started building out the facilities necessary to build those things today, they will not be ready at scale within four years. And then you can begin the build out in four years, and it’ll still take another decade. So no, no, no. But finally, I mean, the Eevee manufacturers really don’t pay any attention to any of this. The real issue was that sales are down. For these reasons and more. People just aren’t interested in EVs at the current time. They’re not as reliable. They don’t have the range. People are a little nervous about the technology in general. And perhaps most importantly, if you’ve got a new style of Eevee that comes out these are new technologies. Not a lot of people want to play today’s prices for yesterday’s Eevee. And so what we’re seeing is cars building up on the lots, not internal combustion cars Those lots are empty, but EVs are building up on the lots, and people just aren’t buying them without absolutely massive discounts. And the discounts are now to the point that the whole industry is no longer profitable, even with the subsidies that came in from the inflation Reduction Act. Ultimately, if people don’t want them, these are not going to be sold. And so we have now converted 1% of the American vehicle fleet to EVs. And it looks like we may be very close to the peak. But in for me a green who can do math, this couldn’t come soon enough. We have limited capital, we have limited resources. We have limited material inputs, and we have limited labor and we really need to focus on the technologies of the green transition, that work. And this isn’t one of them.
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By Straight Arrow News
U.S. auto manufacturers are cancelling plans for the production of electric vehicles (EVs) and EV batteries. Their decisions follow both an observed drop in demand and consistently rising costs on the production end, making the overall venture less and less profitable.
Straight Arrow News contributor Peter Zeihan argues that this was inevitable. He alleges that the data behind EV production in states like California knowingly and deliberately discounts the fossil fuel imports that producers depend on in order to make green EVs appear more realistic than they actually are. The result—auto manufacturers cancelling plans and orders—was always bound to happen. Furthermore, the astonishing resource demands of the projects, Zeihan argues, were never realistic to begin with.
An excerpt from Peter’s Nov. 2 “Zeihan on Geopolitics” newsletter:
When the major auto manufacturers start changing their EV plans, it’s probably a sign something’s not quite right. For all those who think they’re better than everyone else because they drive a Tesla, this video is for you…
Most people see electric vehicles and think it’s good, but remember to read that fine print. Given an increased reliance on Chinese manufacturing and issues with the energy mix and materials, those “planet-haters” driving internal combustion vehicles likely have a smaller carbon footprint than EV drivers.
Transitioning the world’s fleet of cars to EVs is just plain impractical unless we uncover a bottomless supply of materials and invent a new battery chemistry. Until that happens, we’ll continue to see EV sales fall and auto manufacturers lean away from EV plans.
In an ideal world, we would prioritize more practical green technologies instead of pissing away capital and resources on Elon’s new Model XYZ123.
Everybody, Peter Zion here coming to you from Colorado where we’ve just had our first big winter storm and probably get a little bit more on top of the nine inches we got last night Anywho. The news of the moment is that a lot of major auto manufacturers are scaling down their plans to make electric vehicles Ford and GM have both suspended well canceled, plans to build a couple new facilities for battery and Evie assembly, no changes to their internal combustion engine vehicle plans, Tesla has indicated a significant drawdown in their global production capacity. And in fact, they’re saying they’re going to suspend and maybe even canceled the plans for the Gigafactory that they were going to be building in Mexico, although that’s very TBD. There are a lot of issues in play here. But let’s start with the toll DSOs this is something that was never going to work. From an environmental point of view, most EVs are at best questionable. The data that says there’s slam dunk successes assumes that you’re building the EVS with a relatively clean energy mix and the recharging it with 100% green energy. And that happens exactly nowhere. In the United States, the cleanest state is California, they are still 50% fossil fuel energy. And they lie about their statistics because they say they don’t know what the mix is for the power that they’re importing from the rest of the country, which is something like a third of their total demand. And the stuff that comes say from the Phoenix area in Arizona to the LA basin, which is something like 10 gigawatts a day, which is more than most small countries is 100% fossil fuel, but California claims to not know, more importantly, on the fabrication side, because there are so many more exotic materials and because energy processed and make those materials is so much more energy intensive. All of this work is done in China. And in most places, it’s done with either soft coal or lignite. So you’re talking about an order of magnitude more carbon generated just to make these things in the first place compared to an ice. And that means that these things don’t break even on the carbon scale within a year. For most you’re talking about approaching 10 years or more. And that assumes you buy the Chinese data, which is right. Okay, so that’s kind of number one. Number two is materials. These vehicles require an order of magnitude more stuff, more copper, more molybdenum, more, more lithium, obviously, the graphite, and the energy content required to put those that a process is where most of the energy cost comes from. But the more important thing is, is if we’re going to convert the world’s vehicle fleet to these things, there’s just not enough stuff on the planet. I’m not saying that we can’t build on time. But that time is measured in decades, humanity has never doubled the production of any industrial material anytime in history within a 10 year period, if it was something we were using before. And supposedly we need getting 10 times as much nickel and all the rest. So the stuff just isn’t there. So even if this was an environmental panacea, which it’s not, we would never be able to do it in a very short timeframe you’re talking to Century plus most likely. Third cost, your typical Eevee. If you want to compare it to something that’s an internal combustion, it really depends on the model, the cheapest ones are going to still cost about 10,000. More than their equivalent, the more expensive ones can be upwards of 70,000. And so this is not a vehicle whose for most people, and that’s before you consider little things like range anxiety, and I’ve rented an Eevee if it’s real, if there just aren’t enough charging stations. So in order to build out the electrical system that we need, in order to have a nationwide Evie program, we need to basically increase low end the amount of electricity generation and throughput of our system by about half. Now, there’s only been one year since the 1960s, where the United States has ever increased the amount of electricity generated by more than 3%. And that was the year we came back from COVID. And so we didn’t have to install any new infrastructure for that, we would have to generate the sort of build out that we did back in the 50s, when the country was electrifying for the first time. And that’s going to require an order of magnitude more almost two orders of magnitude, let’s call it 20 times more equipment when it comes to things like Transformers and cables than we have done in 75 years. And if we started building out the facilities necessary to build those things today, they will not be ready at scale within four years. And then you can begin the build out in four years, and it’ll still take another decade. So no, no, no. But finally, I mean, the Eevee manufacturers really don’t pay any attention to any of this. The real issue was that sales are down. For these reasons and more. People just aren’t interested in EVs at the current time. They’re not as reliable. They don’t have the range. People are a little nervous about the technology in general. And perhaps most importantly, if you’ve got a new style of Eevee that comes out these are new technologies. Not a lot of people want to play today’s prices for yesterday’s Eevee. And so what we’re seeing is cars building up on the lots, not internal combustion cars Those lots are empty, but EVs are building up on the lots, and people just aren’t buying them without absolutely massive discounts. And the discounts are now to the point that the whole industry is no longer profitable, even with the subsidies that came in from the inflation Reduction Act. Ultimately, if people don’t want them, these are not going to be sold. And so we have now converted 1% of the American vehicle fleet to EVs. And it looks like we may be very close to the peak. But in for me a green who can do math, this couldn’t come soon enough. We have limited capital, we have limited resources. We have limited material inputs, and we have limited labor and we really need to focus on the technologies of the green transition, that work. And this isn’t one of them.
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