Question: “So is it fair to say that these conversations that my Republican colleagues asked you about where Hunter Biden had Joe Biden on the phone around business partners, that there was nothing in those conversations beyond the exchange of pleasantries?”

Archer: “That is correct.”

Question: “And we talked earlier about, kind of, Hunter Biden liking to project this image, this illusion, of access to his father.”

Archer: “Uh-huh.”

Question: “Was this just part of his effort to say, ‘Hey, I’m Joe Biden’s son, and I talk to Joe Biden a lot?'”

Archer’s attorney Matthew Schwartz: “If you know. I mean, don’t speculate about what –”

Archer: “Right. I don’t want to speculate about what he was thinking. But I think it’s just, you know, just common sense and, you know, that it’s the brand and that’s the value and — yeah. I don’t –”

Question: “But it was just about –”

Archer: “It was about projecting who he was.”